Friday, April 2, 2010

getting money/debit vs credit cards

Last time I was in China, I used my credit card to make purchases. The Chinese vendors charged me 4% to use it, and then my Visa charged me another 3% when the bills came in. That adds up! For my next trip, I plan on using my debit card. My bank says they won%26#39;t charge me the 3% transaction fee, the only fee will be whatever the machine in China costs me.



My question: Does anyone know what the usual charge is for ATM machines in China and what is the maximum allowed out per transaction/per day?



BTW, I don%26#39;t recommend taking travelers checks. I thought they were a pain to exchange. I had to find a bank that could process them, it just took a lot of time.



getting money/debit vs credit cards


From what I remember, the ATMs that would accept foreign credit cards (many ATMs only accept domestic cards, so be careful) charged about 3 dollars US as a transaction fee, in addition to whatever your own bank might charge.



getting money/debit vs credit cards


Thanks for the info.




I don%26#39;t have any extra charges from the ATM in China when I use my debit card from overseas. My bank charges me 5 SGD for each transaction though.



The maximum amount allowed for each transaction seems to vary according to bank, location and even with each particular ATM! The usual norm in Shanghai now seems to be 2500 RMB/transaction (up to 5000 RMB/day) but there%26#39;re others with lower limits, eg 1000 RMB/transaction. That could make it expensive.




Thanks. What I found out from my credit card company (after a little more digging) is that Visa is going to charge me a 3% for credit, but 1% for using my debit card. That 2% adds up when you plan on buying a lot!




most shops will charge transaction fee ,you can find CITY BANK at Wangfujing area in Beijing.if you dont want to pay for the transaction fee,




What do you mean? What are my options at CitiBank?




I too am interested in hearing any comments about the use of ATM%26#39;s in Beijing and / or fees charged on transactions.




Let%26#39;s say I plan on buying some furniture for around $2,000. My options for paying are



A) Cash. NO transaction fees or service charges, but worrisome to carry around.



B) Charge to credit card. Chinese vendor charges 4% and credit card company charges 3%, so I end up spending $140 more.



C) Charge to debit card. 4%+1% still has me paying $100 more



D) Get cash from ATM. Uncertain fees and can I get enough?



E) Cash advance from bank. I have to find a bank, and the fees are outrageous.



F) Traveler%26#39;s Checks. Don%26#39;t I have to pay for those too? Plus I have to find somewhere to change them. Can you change travelers checks at hotels or only banks?





A previous poster mentioned going to City Bank, but how would that help? I%26#39;m very curious.





Thanks for any help...I love these forums!




A) Cash. NO transaction fees or service charges



Oh yes there is, unless you pay the vendor with your own currency. All foreign exchange transaction involves fees and charges, but theyare built into the exchange rates (thus buy and sell rates). Cash exchange rate has a fee of 5-20%, depends on where you get your money changed.




I used my debit cards (one VISA from the UK and another MAESTRO from the NL) at various places in Beijing and Shanghai and I got charged the standard fee from my banks and none from the Chinese banks. The charges are not more or less than other methods, I think. Convenient places are Bank of China and there is also an HSBC ATM at Oriental Plaza. I do not know charges for credit card though.

Getting to the city from the airport

Hi,





We%26#39;re travelling to China soon and I%26#39;ve just been quoted (by my travel agent) $200 (AUS) to get a car to pick us up from %26amp; drop us off at the airport/hotel in Shanghai.





My preference is always to make our own way, if it is possible, but how difficult is this to do in Shanghai? Its just myself and my husband, we%26#39;re both reasonably travel savvy but we dont speak any Chinese.





Do they have tour buses running regularly from the airport? Are they easy enough to organise once you are there?





Thanks



Getting to the city from the airport


ROFL, that%26#39;s like at least 5-6 times what my regular cabbie would charge for the same!



Which hotel are you staying at? I%26#39;ll be happy to tell you a much more economical way to get there. It%26#39;d also help if you could tell me what time you%26#39;re arriving at Pudong airport, thanks.



Getting to the city from the airport


I thought as such - it did sound very excessive, even if it is a bit of a distance to travel.





I haven%26#39;t confirmed flights or accomodation yet, but I%26#39;ll post again once I have. Thanks!




No problem, just let me know whenever. :)




Take a Taxi. Ask your Hotel to send you their address written in chines (by e-mail or Fax) then nothing can happen.




If you reach Shanghai through Pudong international airport, there are 5 ways to get city



1)Hotel bus:



*The hotel shuttle bus is the non- stop line between hotels in downtown area and Pudong International Airport.



*Interval time of hotel shuttle bus is about 1 hour.



*Inquiry Tel: 68346682 68346864



Here is the hotel name and bus name:



www.shanghaiairport.com/en/pd.jsp鈥?/a>







2) Airport bus Line



Here is the schedule and stops:



www.shanghaiairport.com/en/pd.jsp鈥?/a>







3) maglev train + taxi,



maglev train is 40RMB/person ( show your plane ticket for that day)



Maglev train is from Pudong airport to Maglev Train Station of Longyang Rd (only takes you 15 min)



Then you can take taxi, usually from that station to city center (People%26#39;s square) will cost you 150RMB more or less







4) take taxi from pudong airport:



distance rate for taxi in Shanghai:



0~3 KM: RMB 10



3~10 KM: RMB 2 / KM



Above 10 KM: RMB 3 / KM





4) vehicle rental:



usually is 450-750RMB/8 hours or 100km





Tips:



Try to find the hotel name and destination is Chinese character, put them on the card. Then you can show this card to taxi driver or any Chinese people.





Useful Chinese:



English: I want to go to...



Chinese: wo xiang qu ...



Chinese character: 鎴戞兂鍘?/p>




If you need any help you Shanghai, or have any other question about Shanghai, pls feel free to contact me via email: alexialsk@gmail.com





Have a nice trip!


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  • Shopping on 18 Feb, CNY

    Hi,





    can anyone advise if I could still do some shopping on the 18 Feb, which is the first day of the Chinese New Year ..





    I have been told that I should go to Huai Hai Road,



    People%26#39;s Square, and nanjing road...





    But it is the first day of the Chinese New Year, so are the big shops open?





    Anyone who could advise?





    Thanks





    Shopping on 18 Feb, CNY


    the first day of Chinese New Year, a lot of department stores will make a lot of products on sell.



    hmm..so I think it should be a nice day for you to shopping.



    actually, in People%26#39;s square there is only one department store, but there is a big shopping center underground. The price there is high (but it%26#39;s not the really rates). You must bargain there!



    I recommend Nan jing Road and Wu Jiao Chang.



    There are a lot of deparment stores located in those 2 area



    You know, more stores, more competitive (on sell la :-)



    Shopping on 18 Feb, CNY


    hello,





    thank you.



    Now, where is the biggest book store in Shanghai?



    I think I remembered it was being mentioned in some featured TV program about travel in Shanghai. But I didnt pay too much attention to it the last time.





    Care to meet and have a chat over coffee on the 25 Feb?





    GongXi Fa Cai




    The biggest book store is near the people%26#39;s square.



    Address is :465 Fuzhou Rd.,Shanghai



    Chinese Address is: 上上海福州路465号



    we call it shanghai book mall (pin yin is: shanghai shu cheng)




    Chinese address should be:上海福州路465号




    Happy Spring Festival~!



    Good Luck%26amp; health~!









    about this question:Care to meet and have a chat over coffee on the 25 Feb?



    I don%26#39;t know whether I will be available that day~



    so many relatives%26#39;s homes I should visit with my parents.



    ^_^




    If you%26#39;re still keen on meeting up on 25/2, I%26#39;m back in town -- email me at ellyse99@yahoo.com with ';TripAdvisor alexia98'; in the subject line.




    u r really an active girl, seemed this guy ask another girl, not u




    So are you jealous or what? If you don%26#39;t feel like being friendly there%26#39;s nothing preventing others like us being friendly, for goodness sakes. I%26#39;ll make sure I won%26#39;t ask you out lest I%26#39;m the target of your snide comments.




    And why are you assuming alexia98 is a guy and not a girl?




    ok ok, i%26#39;m too direct, and i%26#39;m sorry for offend u with my direct remark



    whatever she or he invite who, none of my business

    bejiing

    Do we need thermals, hats scarves etc in Bejiing at the moment?



    bejiing


    Thermals perhaps. Hats and scarves if you%26#39;re prone to feeling the cold.



    bejiing


    A wool hat is small but can go along way to making you feel warmer. You may not need it, but you%26#39;ll be glad to have it if you do.

    Best Way of phoning home

    Can anyone please advise me of the best way of phoning home, i.e. phone cards.



    Best Way of phoning home


    Best bet is a pre-paid phonecard.



    I always get mine from: www.1st4phonecards.com



    Best Way of phoning home


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    7 Days in Xiling Mountain and Jiuzhaigou

    Hi All





    Is 7 days sufficient in Xiling mountain and Jiuzhaigou?





    I am planning a trip in November 07. Will there be enough snow in early November for skiing? What is the best way to get to Xiling mountain? Book a tour in Chengdu for 2 days in Xiling mountain? Is this cheaper? Or can we make our way there ourselves?





    Is three days in Jiuzhaigou enough? Also, is it better to book a tour



    from Chengdu to Jiuzhaigou? How much will this cost for four persons?





    Thanks in advance for your help.





    7 Days in Xiling Mountain and Jiuzhaigou


    3 days in Jiuzhaigou is enough assuming you%26#39;re not including transport time. 2 days for Jiuzhaigou and 1 day for Huanglong. If you%26#39;re flying, add on half a day on both ends. If you%26#39;re taking bus, add on a full day on both ends. Whatever you do, do NOT take a tour to Jiuzhaigou, it%26#39;s NOT necessary at all.



    7 Days in Xiling Mountain and Jiuzhaigou


    Thanks Ellyse





    Is it very easy to get the plane tickets to Juizhaigou? I can just buy the tickets at the airport? How much does it cost for a return trip? You mentioned Huanglong is this in Juizhaigou?What to do in Huanglong?




    If you%26#39;re lucky you%26#39;ll get to see either the last of autumn colours or the first snow in Jiuzhaigou.



    It shouldn%26#39;t be too hard getting tickets at that time but if you already know your dates, nothing against getting them in advance.



    I think it%26#39;s about 1000 RMB for the flight each way, inclusive of taxes. Round-trip is just 2x one-way. The airport is 90 km from Jiuzhaigou so you still have quite a ride after reaching the airport.



    Huanglong is closer to the airport and have marvellous limestone terraces. Read up a guidebook or online for more information. Kinokuniya Bookstore in Takashimaya and Borders are both good for reading for free, I prefer the former. For Kinokuniya, assuming the store layout hasn%26#39;t changed since August, the guidebooks are located near the escalators going down near the centre of the store.

    Kung Fu show

    What is the name of the theater where this show is staged and what are the ticket prices



    Kung Fu show


    its called Red Theater,not far away the Temple of Heaven,the price is 180/280/380RMB



    Kung Fu show


    thanks,



    Not sure how locals can effort this or any other shows that have details posted on TA




    Acrobats and such are mostly popular with tourists, not locals, but the prices of events that are locally popular are even more expensive.





    It%26#39;s easy to find plays, concerts, sports matches etc. where the ticket prices range from 120 RMB for the back few rows of the balcony on the sides (I mean really lousy seats) to 1600 RMB front and center.





    Beijing has roughly 13 million people. Most are not rich, but thousands upon thousands will spend 1600 RMB per ticket just to show people around them that they can afford it!





    And check out the ticket prices for movie theaters. Ouch.




    Agree, these shows are mainly for tourists, not locals.